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K-10 Von- Canein

K-10. 1 step- above a k-9
 
 
Barked: Wed Oct 21, '09 8:03am PST
Besides going through some chickens, and about an entire mule deer, K-10 has consumed a 1000 pound cow in the last 2 months. He goes to work with me, and gets ALOT of exercise. I only feed what is needed to maintain weight by just keeping the front rib showing. He is also fed some apple, pumpkin, squash, eggs, etc. My question is what is the highest calorie raw meat I should feed, just to cut back on some of the poundage he goes through. He is free of parasites, no there is no worm problem, but on days where he plays in snow for 8 hours or so, he will consume up to 10% his body weight just to maintain current weight. He does not poop much either. One time per day, and it is not a mountain, either. If I backed down to 5% his body weight, he would starve to death. It just seems that 10 and a half pounds per day on snow days is excessive for a 104 pound dog, but I also know he is still filling out.
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Farley

Natural-born- watchdog!
 
 
Barked: Wed Oct 21, '09 8:08am PST
To my knowledge, chicken, then beef have the most calories/fat content. Bison, elk, venison etc are all very lean and have much less fat and calories.
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Maxwell

I'm triple- superior MAD- now!
 
 
Barked: Wed Oct 21, '09 9:24am PST
How about some fatty salmon and pork? If you find the cheap ground beef that is mostly fat calories too.
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Chloe

Clearance Puppy - The best of them- all.
 
 
Barked: Wed Oct 21, '09 9:59am PST
Holy cow k-10, If you play in the snow for 10 days, you will have eat over the weight of my not furmom!
In one day you eat more than me!!

I would say if your not fat and are efficently burning the food I would definetly not worry about foods.

I'm not one to ask about calories in the meat though shrug

I saw a few suggestions though =]
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Chamois

"that's my- favorite thing"
 
 
Barked: Wed Oct 21, '09 12:32pm PST
You might consider more fat... adding some fattier cuts along with his normal diet. Brisket comes to mind from the cattle, or belly if you feed pork.

Maybe the fat you take off the deer you eat. (At least, I assume mule deer are like whitetails in how much better they taste to people if the fat is taken off before the meat is frozen).
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K-10 Von- Canein

K-10. 1 step- above a k-9
 
 
Barked: Wed Oct 21, '09 3:40pm PST
I'll be getting some free lamb in a month or so, on the hoof, but I am concerned about fat content. The lamb I get for free is nearly 30 percent fat.
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Chamois

"that's my- favorite thing"
 
 
Barked: Thu Oct 22, '09 2:49am PST
Nix upping the fat, then. You're not going to want to push it that far.

Look at the bright side... he is very unlikely to be short of any nutrients because he gets all the protein, vitamins, minerals, ect along with the energy.

And it is a very good thing that you have good sources of prey... although it costs you time and effort, it doesn't cost much money.

Some of the people on the yahoo rawfeeders list were talking last winter, about how they haul a large carcass in and leave it as is for the dogs to eat. I guess they just left it in their yards, but if you had some kind of dog run or appropriate building to lock it away that might be better. Anyway, that would save you the time and effort of butchering.
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Josie - CGC

California Girl
 
 
Barked: Thu Oct 22, '09 12:39pm PST
Some dogs just burn more calories than others. shrug Your dog is lucky to have that much exercise, stimulation, and work. And anybody's going to burn more calories in the cold -- it keeps them warm.
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Byron

It's all fur!
 
 
Barked: Thu Oct 22, '09 2:27pm PST
Dang, K-10 - 10 pounds a DAY???
eekeekeek

One possible additional food is goat milk. Nice protein and fat. Sounds like you have a lot of different sources available, so it might be affordable for you. Goat milk is supposed to be much easier to digest than cow milk, which can cause runs in many dogs. Yogurt might be another option. Byron, Mr. Everything-Turns-To-Splarts, is able to digest goat milk and yogurt with no problem.

I vote for pork too. Just be aware when serving very fatty meats that you may have to increase bone to keep the stool firm.
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K-10 Von- Canein

K-10. 1 step- above a k-9
 
 
Barked: Tue Nov 3, '09 12:54pm PST
Byron, I forgot to mention that we milk goats daily, and K-10 gets raw goat milk, goat cheese, and yogurt made from goat milk.
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