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Surgical failure and/or recovery failure?.. at my wit's end

  
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Lilith

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Barked: Tue Nov 3, '09 7:00am PST
That's awesome! I don't have a subscription to WDJ, but I do think I know somewhere where I can buy the individual mags. Thanks!
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nina

little- dog big- life
 
 
Barked: Tue Nov 3, '09 2:15pm PST
lilith is a ballerina! laugh out loud
if i stood on my front feet, my nose would make me a tripod. hey, that might be a pretty good trick for a doxie! wink
physical therapy is such tough work, but it must be done. all our sailing friends have blown out rotator cuffs etc and big men cry like babies but come back strong.
i'm sending the power of 4 little powerful paws !! cheer
hughughug
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Lilith

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Barked: Tue Nov 3, '09 3:45pm PST
'big men cry like babies but come back strong." shock I think Lilith is showing them up then.. how many men do you know resort to doing handstands? laugh out loud
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Pepper

If you got food,- I'm your best- friend!
 
 
Barked: Tue Nov 3, '09 6:40pm PST
I'm so sad for you Lilith. You are such a gorgeous little girl, you should not be so uncomfortable.

I'm sorry to say my human came in late to this discussion....She does not understand how a pup from a long line of champions has this problem. It's usually a product of poor and line breeding or Puppy Mills. Is it a common problem for AKK? Or was this because of an accident or something?

And Mom you are terrific. You have done more than many pet owners would. I know you feel helpless, I'm so sorry, wish you well too. Stay strong for the puppies!
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Lilith

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Barked: Tue Nov 3, '09 6:49pm PST
Well, Pepper, CH dogs doesn't always mean that they've had all their health clearances. Just for your reference in the future. smile

However, Lilith's parents and many generations before have had their clearances for thyroid, LP, Factor VII, and other problems. AKKS according to the OFFA database have about a 1% chance of having LPs, so as a breed (at least, those submitted to OFFA), they are relatively healthy in terms of LP incidence.

BUT, LP is not a single-gene defect. It's thought to span many genes so while both parents may have good knees, it doesn't prevent them from carrying enough combined genes between the two of them that may result in weak/bad knees. This is why Lilith's parents' owners are never going to breed those two dogs together again. In that sense, we are unlucky. Lilith's other 3 siblings are fine and the breeder has notified them of Lilith's incidence. Lilith is her first pup of any of her breeding to have LPs. dog

Breeding two parents with bad knees together will MORE LIKELY result in puppies with bad knees, so even though it can happen *either way*, it doesn't mean that its okay to go ahead and do what I would consider reckless.
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Pooch ~ I- miss you ~

love forever
 
 
Barked: Wed Nov 4, '09 11:28am PST
I'm sorry to hear about your recovery problems. It reminds me a bit of what happened when Pooch had his FHO hip surgery... His recovery did not go as planned, and we had to do physical therapy for I think about a year before we finally had the proper 'false joint' development and after that we had to keep it up for maintenence... We started with massage and range-of-motion exercises and then went to water treadmill therapy and acupuncture. I had a trip planned a little over a month after his surgery so I had to take him along. Luckily the place we had booked had a private lake so I was able to have him swimming every day.
Unfortunately the next summer when I took him on another vacation we were at a place with stairs, and since he was still not at 100% he overcompensated and ended up injuring his "good" leg due to putting more weight on it than on the other leg, and started limping... It wasn't anything serious though, just overdoing it.

Anyway if you'd like to read about Pooch's trials and therapy I had made him an FHO journal:
http://www.chicagocanine.com/pooch/poochhd.html
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Lilith

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Barked: Wed Nov 4, '09 2:31pm PST
Pooch, thank you so much for the link. I suppose what is "routine" surgery doesn't always work out that way. Everyone told me little dogs take it well, and that within 20 weeks she should be good as ever. Now its already 5 weeks out and she can't even walk (on 4 feet)! shock

I always thought that therapy was *helpful* but not *necessary*. I have now learned otherwise.

Thanks again for the link! I'm glad that you were able to work through Pooch's therapy. It's nice to find other dogs who have been through it too. Thank you.

ETA: My condolences for Pooch's passing. He lived what sounds like a great life with a caring Human. hug

Okay, I read over your page.. it was so helpful. Acupuncture wasn't thinking I'd thought of, nor some of the supplements you had him on. I'll be sure to check at the vets about it. Thank you so much!

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Pooch ~ I- miss you ~

love forever
 
 
Barked: Wed Nov 4, '09 3:06pm PST
Thanks Lilith!
I'm glad the page was helpful! Another supplement I am not sure if I mention on there which I used later for Pooch after his recovery (my vet recommended) was Duralactin.
Actually Pooch was originally diagnosed with a luxating patella rather than hip dysplasia by two separate vet clinics, before the HD was finally discovered. Eventually an exam under anesthesia showed that he did not have luxating patellas at all after all. I think because of his size, HD was not the first thing they thought of.
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Lilith

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Barked: Wed Nov 4, '09 3:11pm PST
Yes, HD is different than LP, but the recovery from it and your account is still really helpful. Lantis has HD but we opted against surgery. The doctors and I both agreed that recovery for him would be worse than it is now.. he still uses all 4 legs and has some arthritis, but being a giant, geriatric dog, it would invariably be tougher on him.
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